SHERLINE Thread Cutting Attachment

P/N 3100


Purpose of the Thread Cutting Attachment

One of the big advantages of having a lathe is being able to machine threads. many threads can be cut using taps and dies, but having a tap and die set that will enable you to cut all the non-standard thread sizes would be quite expensive.

SHERLINE offers a unique and versatile thread cutting attachment for its lathe. This low cost attachment enables you to machine 31 different unified thread pitches (Pitch range from 80 to 10 threads per inch) and 28 different metric thread pitches (Pitch range from .25 to 2.0mm). What's more, it allows you to cut them as either left hand or right hand threads. the lathe tool of course can be ground to cut any of the various thread forms, and any of these various pitches or thread forms can be cut on any pitch diameter you desire. This versatility enables you to machine any standard or non-standard thread you might desire as long as it is within the size limitations of the lathe.

The attachment consists of 15 gears, mounting bracket, engagement mechanism and 4.00" (102mm) handwheel. Threads are generated on the SHERLINE by gearing the spindle to the lead screw. As the spindle is rotated with the handwheel mounted on the headstock spindle, the tool will advance an amount equal to the ration of the gears. When the tool has completed its movement, you simply stop cranking, back up the tool and turn the spindle in the opposite direction until the tool is past its starting point, reset the tool and you're ready for the next pass. It's a simple as tapping! By using a 127-tooth gear (supplied) true metric threads can be cut on an inch lathe (Model 4000, 4400 or 4500) or true inch threads can be cut on a metric lathe (Models 4100, 4410 or 4530).

An Introduction to Thread Cutting in the Real World

After designing and putting the enclosed screw cutting attachment into production, I sat down and started reading what other people have written about cutting screw threads before writing my own instructions. It amazed me that I had been able to cut threads all these years knowing so little. How and why I was able to do this is going to be the subject of my instructions. There are sufficient books available at any library to go into additional detail on the subject if required. These instructions are based on using sharp pointed 60° tools and cutting threads for your own use.

The reason other books go into such great detail on the precise methods used commercially is that they are telling you how to cut threads from specifications for other people. They have to have exact methods and standards to make sure that a bolt made in California will screw into a nut manufactured in New York. Fortunately, we have the tremendous advantage of having both pieces at hand and we can just "keep cutting 'till they fit". It's as simple as that! You simply select the proper gear from the chart; put in a 60° threading tool and have at it.

A point to ponder about thread cutting is how a lathe produces a thread. It doesn't matter whether the lathe is a 20" or a 3". The principle is the same. The lead screw that drives the saddle is geared directly to the spindle. When the spindle turns, the saddle moves. If they were geared one to one, the pitch cut would be the same as the pitch of the lead screw. On the 3" lathe, this would be 20 Threads Per Inch (TPI). If we turned the lead screw 180° while we turned the spindle 360° (by using a 20 tooth to a 40 tooth gear arrangement) we would cut 40 TPI. Please note that we did not have to consider the stock's diameter. The only requirement is that the major diameter is at least twice the depth of the thread plus enough material to support these threads while cutting them. One gets used to hearing a diameter called out with the threads, such as 1/4"-20, 6-32, 10-24, etc., but while it's unusual to think of 40 threads per inch cut on something 2" in diameter. Yet, in some cases it may be entirely practicable to do so.

It may interest you to know how a metric thread can be cut on a 3" lathe that has American National screw threads on its lead screw. The 127 T conversion gear does this by driving the lead screw at a ratio that converts 20 TPI to 1mm. Consider 100T on the spindle driving a 127T. The ratio is .7874 to 1. The lead screw has 20 TPI: .050" P x .7874 = .03937" = 1mm.

Figure 1—Component parts of a thread cut with a sharp pointed 60° Vee tool.

MAJOR DIAMETER—Largest diameter of the thread of either the screw or the nut.
MINOR DIAMETER—Smallest diameter of the thread of either the screw or the nut.
PITCH DIAMETER—The theoretical diameter that falls on a point where the thread width and the groove width are the same.
PITCH (P)—The distance from point to point measured parallel to the axis. Metric threads are always expressed in Pitch.
LEAD—The distance a screw thread advances axially in one turn. On a double lead screw, the lead is twice the pitch.

NOTE: The same methods can be used in figuring dimensions for American or Metric screw threads.
1mm = .03937"
Pitch (Metric) x .03937" x .758 = depth of screw thread in inches

Take the time to familiarize yourself with component parts of the screw thread from Figure 1. The pitch diameter is the important one to consider. Before going on, let's take the time to really understand why. The pitch diameter determineshow a screw or thread will fit, not the major diameter. Suppose you were cutting 20 TPI and the major diameter was .010 undersize and the pitch diameter was correct. About the only thing wrong would be that the flat on the point of the thread would be a little wide, but it would still have approximately 75% of its strength and work well.

Now let us suppose we cut the pitch diameter undersize by .010. We would end up with a nut that fits so loose and a thread that was so weak that we would have to scrap it. There is where "cutting to fit" comes in. You can compensate for some pretty bad errors on the major and minor diameters by having the pitch diameter correct. To get it correct, all you have to do is to keep trying it for size as you cut. Don't ever take the part out of the chuck to try it because it would be next to impossible to re-chuck it in exactly the same place. However, the entire chuck, along with the part, could be removed from the lathe to try it for size. Don't force anything when trying the part for size, because you might move the part slightly in the chuck, and really "screw things up".

Why have I made such a point about having the major or minor diameter wrong and still making the part work? Read on. You're probably thinking I must really be a "hacker" if I can't cut a diameter within .010. Well, the problem in many cases, is not how close you can cut to a diameter, but what the diameter should be.

Example: Your buddy just heard you bought a nice new shiny lathe complete with a screw cutting attachment, and like all good friends, immediately goes to work trying to figure out how you and your new lathe will be of some use to him. It doesn't take him long! He has a camera which he tried to repair himself last year, but lost an important part. Of course the missing part has metric threads, but that's a "snap" for a 3" lathe. A quick check with a thread gauge indicates that it has .9mm Pitch. No problem, yet. It is an internal thread, so you will have to cut a screw to mate with it. Here's the problem: What is the major diameter? You can measure the diameter of the hole, but you can't be assured that the thread form is perfect and that this is really the minor diameter. You can only assume that it's close. Now you take this dimension and add to it twice the depth of the thread, which should give you the major diameter. To get the depth of one thread, multiply the Pitch x .6. (Note: Pitch x 1.2 + Minor Diameter = Major Diameter). Total depth of thread using a sharp pointed 60° tool = P x .65 = .036" x .65 = .023".

The constant .6 is not used to figure depth of an external thread, it is just one used to get you in the "ball park" in a situation such as this.

At least we have a fairly reliable place to start now and can probably get one cut that will work on the first try. Always keep track of the total depth cut in case it comes out undersized. At least you'll know how deep not to cut it on the second one!

The example I gave you was one of the more difficult situations you may run into, not only because you had to do the job for free to keep a friend, but also because you had very limited information from which to work.

Usually, you will be cutting both the screw and nut. This is a case where two wrongs can almost equal one right. You can rectify any error you may have had in cutting the first one by compensating for it in the mating part.

Left-hand threads can be cut as easily as right-hand threads on a lathe; the only difference being the addition of an idler gear which reverses tool movement so that it travels left to right.

It's hard to appreciate just how much money an inexpensive lathe like this, with a screw cutting attachment can save you, until you have had to have a special part made that doesn't have a standard thread size. Even though there may be taps or dies available, a left-hand 1"-32 would probably cost half as much as your entire thread cutting attachment.

What I have tried to do in these opening remarks is to show that screw-cutting is really easy, and to give you the self-confidence it takes to do any job well. Too often, good craftsmen are stopped from venturing forth because the only information available shows the technically perfect way to do things rather than the simple, practical methods everyone really uses.

Thread Cutting Conversion Kit

This kit has been engineered to add additional versatility to your 3" Lathe. With this attachment, a wide variety of threads, both right-handed and left-handed may be produced. Most American Standard and Metric threads may be cut with equal ease and precision. The accompanying charts list the entire range from which you may choose. (See Figure 5.)

Conversion Instructions (Refer also to illustrations)

STEP 1. Carefully drive furnished small sheet metal screw into hole located in spindle which extends from the left side of the drive pulleys. Use a proper size screwdriver for this operation and avoid installing the screw at an angle since it must seat squarely against the spindle. After driving, remove the screw and dress down the "burr" which will be raised around the edge of the hole. A small fine file is suitable for this. Next slide two thin spacer washers over the tube and against the pulley. Reinsert the sheet metal screw and tighten firmly.

STEP 2. Remove the headstock and loosen the flat head socket screw a few turns.

STEP 3. Remove cap screw under base and directly below headstock.

STEP 4. Grease shaft with flats on both ends and slide shaft into the lead screw support (situated directly below pulley). Be sure end with small flat enters first. Now slide shaft with a single flat into the lead screw support. To guarantee that the shaft is "home", turn shaft one or two revolutions while applying gentle inward pressure to the end of the shaft.

STEP 5. Replace screw from STEP 3 making sure that point of screw goes into machined groove. Check that shaft is free to rotate. Retighten the flat head socket screw and replace the headstock.

STEP 6. Pull out the black plug below the name plate and slide the remaining shaft (with handle) into the hole (handle upward). It may be necessary to rotate the shaft about 30° backwards and forwards to get it completely "home".

Figure 2—Side view, Thread Cutting Attachment.

NOTE: If insertion or movement of the Engagement Lever is difficult, try loosening the two screws on the bottom of the machine that hold the bed to the base. Move the bed slightly until a good fit occurs.

STEP 7. It may be necessary to deburr parts for smooth operation.

NOTE: The section below entitled "Cutting A Thread for Practice" uses the example of cutting a 28 pitch right hand thread on a 1/4" diameter piece of stock. The following numbers are based on that setup.

STEP 8. Refer to chart (Figure 5) and select type of thread to be cut. As an example, we have chosen American Standard, 28 TPI, right hand lead.

Figure 3—Setup for cutting 28 Threads Per Inch

GEAR

A

B

C

D

E

TEETH

100

100

20

28

40

NOTE: Idler Gear "E" is used for Right Hand Threads, Idler Gears "F" and "G" are used for Left Hand Threads and are, therefore, not used in this example.

Remove motor assembly (see OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS STEP 2).

Slide gear "A" (100) onto spindle engaging slot with previously installed sheet metal screw head.

Install "B" gear (100) and "C" gear (20) onto primary support arm. The drive pin is used not only to drive the "C" gear, but also to hold the "B" gear on the arm.

Install "E" gear (40) on secondary support arm.

Slide lower split end of primary support arm over the lead screw support. Adjust until "B" gear meshes properly with "A" gear (100). When mesh is satisfactory, tighten clamp screw.

Install "D" gear (28) and secure with Allen head screw and small washer. NOTE: This screw need only be finger tight and should not be used when it interferes with the secondary support arm. Adjust secondary support arm and gear for proper engagement with mating gears. When satisfactory, tighten retaining screw and pivot screw.

Install crank wheel by sliding over spindle.

Line slot up with protruding sheet metal screw head and tighten down crank wheel set screw using Allen wrench. A few drops of oil on moving parts will be helpful.

Figure 4—Gear Setup Diagram for Example. NOTE: See Figure 7 for a detailed setup drawing that shows the gears in relation to the primary and secondary support arms.

Cutting a Thread for Practice

I believe the time has come to "HAVE AT IT" and start by chucking up a piece of aluminum and turning it to 1/4" diameter. Let's cut 28 TPI on it. Be sure to have a nut to check it with. Looking at the chart we see we need an "A" 100T on the spindle, driving a "B" 100T, which is attached to the "C" 20T, driving the lead screw "D" 28T, using the idler "E" 40T that mounts on the swing arm. The gears should mesh so they run "free" and have a reasonable amount of backlash. NOTE: All gear trains have some "backlash" and it will not effect the quality of the thread, but it does have to be allowed for. This is why the tool has to be backed out before the lathe spindle is reversed.

Over 90% of the threads cut on a lathe of this type will have a pitch less the .070, and be less than 3/8" long. Now and then you may have to cut a fairly course thread (more than .070" pitch) and a good idea is to "rough out" the thread by moving the tool post slightly to the left between passes. This keeps the tool from having to cut on both sides. On a standard lathe, the tool is advanced by the compound rest which is set at 29°. This allows only one side of the tool to cut and lessens the load considerably. The final cut is then taken with the crosslide being advanced to "clean up" the thread. We can get the same effect by moving the tool post. When cutting fine threads you can get away with cutting "straight in". The crank drive gives you the "feel" and a precise method of stopping needed in single-pointing fine threads. Cranking the spindle counter clock wise gives you reverse. This allows you to cut the entire thread without disengaging the lead screw.

Establish the depth of the first cut by bringing the tool in to the point where it just touches the surface. Write the dial setting down, and move the tool past the starting point of the thread. Now engage the lead screw lever. The lead screw may have to be turned while applying slight pressure on the lever in order to get it to engage properly. DO NOT DISENGAGE UNTIL THE THREAD HAS BEEN COMPLETELY CUT. Now advance tool .003" for first cut. Turn the spindle counter clockwise until the desired length of thread has been cut. Back the tool out until it is completely clear of the part. Crank spindle clockwise until tool is at the original starting point. Advance the tool to its last point plus .002". I've always found it useful to write these dial settings down too, it is amazing how fast you can forget one! Now take the second pass by cranking the spindle counter clockwise. The amount the tool should be advanced from this point on should be governed by the amount of force it took the last pass. The cut will get progressively heavier each time the tool is advanced. Remember, you can't ruin your part by taking too light a cut. To figure what the total amount the tool should be advanced if you are using a sharp Vee form tool (standard form of tool used in single pointing threads) simply multiply the pitch times .758.

Example: Pitch of 28 TPI = 1/28

Pointed tool depth = P x .758 = 1/28 x .758 = .027

If you are not too good with math and don't like to do it, just keep cutting and looking at the flat on the top of the thread. When the flat is 1/8 the pitch, the nut should fit. Either way, check it long before you think it is finished to be on the safe side until more experience is gained. The last two passes should be repeats of previous dial settings to clean up threads. Not too hard was it? No matter what type of threads you may cut, the basic method will remain the same. Internal threads are very seldom cut full depth. To figure the hole size you should start with: take the pitch of thread you are cutting and multiply it by 1.083 and subtract this from the major diameter. To figure the total depth using a sharp pointed 60° tool, multiply the pitch by .65. EXAMPLE: To cut an internal 1-1/2"-28 TPI:

Major Diameter = 1.5

P = 1/28 = .036"

Major Diameter - (P x 1.083) = Hole Size
1.500" - (.036" x 1.083) = Hole Size
1.500" - .039 = 1.461
Hole size = 1.461

A double lead could be cut by picking change gears that are one-half the pitch and indexing the "A" gear 180° after cutting the first thread to depth. NOTE: There isn't any way to check a double lead until it is completely cut, therefore, the depth must be figured mathematically. It has always been fun for me to do jobs like this, not because the were needed, but just to see if I could!

Screw Cutting Operation

(Read detailed instructions before proceeding.)

STEP 1. Turn or bore stock to proper diameter.

STEP 2. Remove the motor assembly from the lathe by unscrewing the two socket head cap screws that hold the motor bracket to the headstock.

STEP 3. Install thread cutting tool in post holder.

STEP 4. Place tool bit at starting point of thread and set for .003" cut.

STEP 5. Engage lever at base of lathe by turning lead screw support handle clockwise. Turn lead screw handwheel until full engagement occurs.

STEP 6. Turn spindle crank wheel until tool bit has traveled full length of intended thread.

STEP 7. Back crosslide out to clear tool from thread.

STEP 8. Turn crank wheel backwards until tool bit has traveled past starting point of thread.

STEP 9. Return crosslide to its original position plus .002".

STEP 10. Repeat STEPS 6, 7, 8, and 9 until full depth of threads has been cut. Cutting oil will make cutting easier, and will give a better finish.

Joe Martin, President and Owner
SHERLINE Products

Figure 5--Gear Selection Chart for Thread Cutting Attachment

INCH THREADS

Gear E is used for RH threads only   

Gears F and G used
for LH threads only

Threads Per Inch

Gear A

Gear B

Gear C

Gear D

Gear E

Gear F

Gear G

80

50

100

20

40

38

28

22

76

50

100

20

38

40

30

22

72

50

100

20

36

40

28

34

68

50

100

20

34

40

28

30

64

50

100

20

32

40

28

30

60

50

100

20

30

40

28

26

56

50

100

20

28

40

26

30

52

50

100

20

26

40

24

34

48

50

100

20

24

40

26

30

44

50

100

20

22

40

26

30

40

100

100

20

40

38

28

22

38

100

100

20

38

40

30

22

36

100

100

20

36

40

28

34

34

100

100

20

34

40

28

30

32

100

100

20

32

40

28

30

30

100

100

20

30

40

28

26

28

100

100

20

28

40

26

30

26

100

100

20

26

40

24

30

24

100

100

20

24

40

26

30

22

100

100

20

22

40

26

30

20

100

100

20

20

40

26

24

19R

100

100

40

38

30

-

-

19L

100

50

20

38

-

30

22

18R

100

100

40

36

3-

-

-

18L

100

50

20

36

-

28

34

17R

100

100

40

34

30

-

-

17L

100

50

20

34

-

28

30

16R

100

100

40

32

30

-

-

16L

100

50

20

32

-

28

30

15R

100

100

40

30

32

-

-

15L

100

50

20

30

-

28

26

14R

100

100

40

28

30

-

-

14L

100

50

20

28

-

26

30

13R

100

100

40

26

30

-

-

13L

100

50

20

26

-

24

30

12R

100

100

40

24

30

-

-

12L

100

50

20

24

-

26

30

11R

100

100

40

22

30

-

-

11L

100

50

20

22

-

26

30

10R

100

100

40

20

30

-

-

10L

100

50

20

20

-

26

24

9

100

50

40

36

 

--

--

8

100

50

40

32

 

--

--

7

100

50

40

28

 

--

--

6

100

50

40

24

 

--

--

5

100

50

40

20

 

--

--

METRIC THREADS

Gear E is used for RH threads only  

Gears F and G used
for LH threads only

Pitch (mm)

Gear A

Gear B

Gear C

Gear D

Gear E

Gear F

Gear G

.25

50

127

20

40

30

28

22

.30

50

127

24

40

30

26

22

.35

50

127

28

40

30

26

22

.40

50

127

32

40

30

24

22

.45

50

127

36

40

30

20

22

.50

100

127

20

40

30

28

22

.55

100

127

22

40

30

28

20

..60

100

127

24

40

30

28

22

.65

100

127

26

40

30

28

22

.70

100

127

28

40

30

26

22

.75

100

127

30

40

28

24

22

.80

100

127

32

40

30

24

22

.85

100

127

34

40

30

20

22

.90

100

127

36

40

30

20

22

1.0R

50

127

40

20

30

-

-

.1.0L

100

127

20

20

-

26

24

.1.1

100

127

22

20

40

24

26

1.2

100

127

24

20

40

22

26

1.25

100

127

30

24

38

22

26

1.3

100

127

26

20

40

22

24

1.4

100

127

28

20

38

22

24

1.5

100

127

30

20

38

20

26

1.6

100

127

32

20

38

20

26

1.7

100

127

34

40

38

20

22

1.75

100

127

35*

20

38

20

22

1.8

100

127

36

20

38

-

-

1.9

100

127

38

20

-

-

36

2.0

100

127

40

20

30

-

-

* Not included in standard set.

NOTE—Threads cut with a pitch greater than 16 TPI or 1.5mm begin to push the maximum capabilities of the machine when cut full depth into steel. You may have to slightly move the tool post occasionally so the entire thread form isn't being cut at one time. Pitches greater than this can be cut into plastic and wood with no problems. Large pitch threads are also used with multiple lead threads. For example: a 20 T.P.I. double lead thread would need a 10 T.P.I. setup and a cutting tool that would form a 20 T.P.I. thread form.

NOTE—Cutting left hand threads below 20 T.P.I. and right hand threads 5 through 9 T.P.I. will require that you remove the shaft from the 100-tooth gear and press it in to the 50-tooth gear. These are threads that wouldn't normally be cut on a machine of this size. An extra gear and shaft can be ordered from the replacement parts list to eliminate this problem.

Figure 6—A simplified diagram of gear train relationships for RH and LH threads. Figure 7 below shows a sample setup with gears in relation to the support arms to better help you visualize how they are actually installed.

To use this chart with the Model 4100 (Metric) Lathe, use the 100-tooth gear in place of the 127-tooth gear when cutting metric threads and the 127-tooth gear in place of the 100-tooth ("A" Gear) when cutting American threads. Press the shaft out of the 127-tooth gear and into the 100-tooth gear. American threads finer than 40 TPI cannot be cut.

NOTE: Gear "E" or "F" and "G" are idler gears and are not used to transmit power and control direction of rotation only.

NOTE:When cutting right hand threads, Gear "E" is used in the vertical slot of the Secondary Support Arm, P/N 3103. When cutting left hand threads, Gear "F" is used in the vertical slot and Gear "G" is used in the horizontal slot and Gear E is not used. See drawings in Figure 7 for more detail of how gears are actually installed on the support arms.

Figure 7—(Below) Visual relationship of gears and support arms for RH and LH threads

Figure 7A—(Above) Gears A, B, C, D and E installed for cutting a right-hand thread

Figure 7B—Gears A, B, C, D, F and G installed for cutting a left-hand thread

EXPLODED VIEW

* Gears shown are for example only. For other combinations, see accompanying charts (Figure 5).
** 3115 Gear Shafts are press fits in 3111 and 3127 Gears.

REPLACEMENT PARTS LIST

NO. REQ.

PART NO.

DESCRIPTION

1

31010

Handwheel

1

31020

Primary Support Arm

1

31030

Secondary Support Arm

1

31040

Small Shim Washer

2

31050

Large Shim Washer

2

31060

Gear Bushing

1

31070

Gear Drive Pin

1

31080

10-32 x 3/8" Set Screw

1

31090

Pan Hd Sheet Metal Screw, #6 x 3/16" Type A

1

31100

100-Tooth Gear, 56 Pitch (w/ Notch)

1

31110

100-Tooth Gear, 56 Pitch

1

40340

10-32 x 1" Skt Hd Cap Screw

3

40510

10-32 x 3/8" Skt Hd Cap Screw

1

40330

10-32 x 5/8" Skt Hd Cap Screw

1

40660

#10 Washer

2

31150

Gear Shaft

1

31200

20-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31220

22-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31240

24-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31260

26-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31270

127-Tooth Gear, 56 Pitch

1

31280

28-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31300

30-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31320

32-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31340

34-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31340

34-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31360

36-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31380

38-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31400

40-Tooth Gear, 24 Pitch

1

31500

50-Tooth Gear, 56 Pitch

1

15090

Sliding Shaft

1

15420

Engagement Lever

1

15430

Fixed Shaft

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